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Reference Sheet: Cross-platform Fonts


Jacqueline Landman Gay
HyperActive Software
Presented at RevConWest, June 2005

Much of the following information was gathered from the LiveCode mailing list, and is offered as a reference for cross-platform font issues.

The font issue

None of the major operating systems that LiveCode supports handle fonts in exactly the same way. Even though there are a few fonts that some systems have in common, the font metrics vary even between fonts of the same name. They will look and print differently on different platforms. Arial on Windows is not the same as Arial on Macintosh.

Windows by default displays fonts at 96 dots per inch resolution, and Macintosh displays them at 72 dots per inch. However, these default resolutions can (and usually do) change if the user has set their monitor to display at a different resolution. You cannot predict what the font metics will be on any given machine at any given time.

There is no easy way to resolve these conflicts that will enable your stacks to display identically on all platforms. The best solution is the simplest: allow the default system font to display in field text, or if you prefer more consistency, use a font common to all platforms. In all cases, leave some extra space in the field to allow for different word widths and line wrapping.

To set a field to always use the system default, set its textfont property to a font name that does not exist, such as “0”:

set the textfont of fld 1 to 0

Fonts common to all platforms

There aren’t many. Only Courier is supported across Linux, MacOS, Mac OS X, and Windows. Because it is a monospaced font, Courier isn’t very useful much of the time.

Below is a partial comparison table of some fonts shared across various operating systems. Users may install their own fonts at any time; this table lists only those fonts that are shipped with the operating system. If a font is not listed here, it is not relevant to cross-platform use. This table is not all-inclusive.

Mac OS Mac OS X Windows Linux
Courier X X X X
Helvetica X X X
Lucida X X
LucidaTypewriter X
Times X X X
Arial X X
Arial Black X X
Times New Roman X X X
Verdana (often*) X X
Comic Sans (often*) X X
Century Gothic X X
Copperplate Gothic X X
Impact X X
Lucida Handwriting X X
Tahoma X X
Times New Roman (often*) X X
Trebuchet X X
Verdana (often*) X X

* Not native to the OS but often auto-installed by web browsers or other software

User Recommendations

According to the mailing list, the most-recommended font for Mac/Windows deployment is Arial. Tahoma is also popular. For stacks that must display on Linux/Unix platforms as well, you will probably have to change the field text dynamically to a different font, or maintain separate versions of your stack.

Font metric comparisons

If you are determined to try for the closest appearance in cross-platform stacks, you can set the textfont and textsize of fields or stacks dynamically with scripts depending on the platform the stack is running on. Note that Windows fonts are not scalable, where Mac OS and Mac OS X fonts are. If you set a font size on Windows that does not exist natively, it will look bad. Macintosh fonts look good at any size, so it may be preferable to set your field text to a size supported by the Windows font, or else dynamically change the field fonts by script when the card opens. (LiveCode profiles can do this.)

Dar Scott posted the following helpful comparison table to the mailing list, This chart shows the formattedHeight and formattedWidth of the word "Washington" in different fonts and sizes on two platforms.

Mac OS X

textSize textHeight Arial Helvetica Courier Courier New
8 10 10x40 9x40 9x50 10x50
9 12 12x48 12x48 12x50 12x50
10 13 13x55 13x54 13x60 13x60
11 14 14x57 13x57 13x70 14x70
12 16 16x65 14x65 14x70 16x70
13 17 17x68 16x68 16x80 17x80
14 18 18x75 17x75 17x80 18x80
15 20 20x77 18x77 18x90 20x90
16 21 21x85 20x85 20x100 21x100
17 22 22x88 21x88 21x100 22x100
18 24 24x95 22x95 22x110 24x110
19 25 25x103 24x103 24x110 25x110
20 26 26x105 25x105 25x120 26x120

Windows XP

textSize textHeight Arial Helvetica Courier Courier New
8 10 9x39 ---- 13x80 8x50
9 12 10x40 ----- 13x80 8x50
10 13 10x49 ----- 13x80 10x50
11 14 12x55 ----- 13x80 10x60
12 16 14x66 ----- 13x80 14x70
13 17 14x66 ----- 13x80 14x70
14 18 16x69 ----- 16x90 14x80
15 20 17x78 ----- 16x90 16x80
16 21 18x87 ----- 16x90 17x100
17 22 18x87 ----- 20x120 18x100
18 24 21x95 ----- 20x120 20x110
19 25 24x102 ------ 20x120 21x130
20 26 24x111 ------ 20x120 22x130

So for Arial:
OSX Windows XP
8 9
10 11 (except for height)
12 14 (except for width)
As you can see, even the fonts sizes that match superficially may not match exactly in all respects. You can come close, but it will not be identical.

Shipping fonts with your standalones

Some companies ship fonts with their applications so that they will more closely match across platforms. Bitstream makes a font called “Vera” that is specifically designed to display the same font metrics on both Windows and Macintosh. However, installing fonts into a user’s system is not always practical, and some users may not like it.

A last resort — images

An image of a block of text is always an option for static text such as labels. However, some people have resorted to using images of text characters, which are assigned to fields dynamically by script using the imagesource property. This requires careful preparation and meticulous scripting and unless an absolute match is strictly required, probably isn’t worth the trouble. Text editing such fields becomes almost impossible and scripts will no longer be able to use most of LiveCode’s built-in text chunking.

In conclusion

Our recommendation is: in most cases, pretty close is good enough.